Wednesday 12 December 2012

No to Same Sex Marriage!

As a lifelong Conservative, I should like to make it absolutely clear that I am totally opposed to same sex marriage and am extremely angry with David Cameron for going back on his word to protect marriage in churches.  He announced on Friday that he is now pushing for same-sex marriage in churches. The news of this u-turn has been reverberating around Britain ever since.


Like the majority of Christians, this is what I believe:
We solemnly proclaim that marriage between a man and a woman is ordained of God and that the family is central to the Creator’s plan for the eternal destiny of His children.
ALL HUMAN BEINGS—male and female—are created in the image of God. Each is a beloved spirit son or daughter of heavenly parents, and, as such, each has a divine nature and destiny. Gender is an essential characteristic of individual premortal, mortal, and eternal identity and purpose.

The Government had always promised that same-sex weddings would not be allowed in churches and other religious premises. This was said all over its consultation document. As you may know, the Member of Parliament for Winchester Mr Steve Brine MP has specifically relied on this promise to try to reassure voters in his constituency.


Now the Prime Minister has broken this vital promise.
Many people are shocked that even before the consultation results are released, the Prime Minister has so dramatically shifted the goal posts. If marriage is redefined, religious believers will be exposed to litigation and the European courts – just for marrying people as they have done for centuries.
Of course many people who believe in traditional marriage don’t go to church. But everyone is asking: who can trust David Cameron on his gay marriage plans?  And if they can't trust him on this, what else can they trust him on?
And everyone can now see that redefining marriage will be a massive cultural change.
Please email Mr Steve Brine MP (steve.brine.mp@parliament.uk) urgently and tell him that the Government must drop its deeply unpopular plans to redefine marriage.

I reproduce here the latest communication from Coalition for Marriage.


The Government is in growing trouble over its plans to redefine marriage.
Today MPs and the media exposed the sham consultation process for everyone to see. The Government claimed this was the ‘biggest listening exercise’ ever carried out – but ignored 500,000 signatories of the C4M national petition!
The House of Commons has heard that the Government plans to push on with its highly controversial plans, relying on a slight majority of consultation responses (if the C4M petition is completely excluded).
But the Government’s online consultation response form, upon which it depends, was wide open to abuse – it was anonymous and could be completed by anyone in the world, as many times as they liked!
We raised these concerns at the time with senior officials, but our warnings were ignored. It looks like the Government is ‘cooking the books’.
Other aspects of the plans are coming under fire. As you know, David Cameron revealed on Friday that he wants to introduce same-sex marriages in churches. This would be a huge social change and has provoked amazement and opposition across the PM’s Conservative Party.
Equalities Minister, Maria Miller, was under such pressure she had to bring forward the announcement about the consultation responses. Mrs Miller addressed the Commons at lunchtime today. She repeatedly promised a ‘quadruple lock’ to protect churches and other religious premises. But this ignores the millions of people whose civil liberties at work will be under threat if marriage is redefined. And most people realise that in time the European Court of Human Rights will back gay marriage, whatever Government Ministers may say today.
Please do email your MP about David Cameron’s big policy change to introduce same-sex marriage in churches.

What’s ahead?

According to media reports, the Government will introduce its Bill to redefine marriage in January.
We know that MPs who were previously undecided are moving our way. The C4M national petition continues to grow every day – it’s now over 620,000! The more people sign the petition, the bigger the network of marriage campaigners will become. C4M is focused on building that momentum, and ensuring the arguments against redefining marriage are heard far and wide.
Thank you to all those who have been financially supporting us so far. It is making a real difference. Together with you we are winning the argument.
Be assured that the Government faces an almighty battle ahead in Parliament.
Yours sincerely,
Colin Hart
Colin Hart
Campaign Director
Coalition for Marriage



I am a lifelong Conservative and join with many other members of the Party in condemning the Prime Minister for this u-turn and I ask for your support in helping us to prevent this bill from being presented to parliament.
The Government has no mandate for redefining marriage because it was not a manifesto pledgeand  the latest news on church weddings shows that the plans will change the meaning of marriage for everyone.No-one will believe David Cameron’s promises on his gay marriage plans because, as mentioned above, the ECHR will inevitably legislate in favour of homosexuals.The Government should be concentrating on reviving the economy, not meddling with marriage.Civil partnerships already give same-sex couples full legal equality, so there’s no need to redefine marriage.The latest polls show 62 per cent of the public want to keep marriage as it is.People shouldn't be treated as outcasts just because they believe in traditional marriage,
which would have a big impact on what children learn about marriage in schools.

This will decimate the party, paeticularly as UKIP are against same sex marriage!

In order to protect marriage please would you write to your MP and make the points above and also sign the petition on http://c4m.org.uk/ if you haven't already done so.
chris@chrishuhne.org.uk   As a LibDem he is probably very much in favour of same sex marriage but he needs to know his constituents' feelings.
steve.brine.mp@parliament.uk   Steve Brine is opposed to same sex marriage, particularly in churches, and is a good Conservative MP, so he would appreciate your support.

Proper Conservative Government Can and Will Work

I should like to make it clear that I am a traditional Tory and have no time for so-called modernisation.  The government inherited a terrible economic situation from the awful Labour government, which had done so much to wreck the country, and it should be concentrating on the economy, not wasting its time on the irrelevance of same sex marriage, for just 5% of the population, who already have civil partnerships.

David Cameron has the right stance on Europe and performed robustly in Prime Minister's Questions today, BUT HE MUST BE DEFEATED OVER THESE PROPOSALS.  I am speaking for virtually everyone I meet on the doorstep and for virtually all the party members I know.

As I say to waverers, don't judge the Conservative party by the Coalition.  Judge it by us, the grass-roots workers.  The LibDems want integration with Europe, the countryside scarred with windfarms - and of course the inevitable power cuts as the supply is inconsistent - and the legalisation of cannabis and prostitution.  We want small government and the reduction of the national debt without scaring wealth creators away from our country.

Today's publication of immigration figures shows just how disastrous Labour's immigration policy was and we are already reeling from their disastrous economic policies, so we can't afford  another Labour government, so let's return to a proper Conservative party.


3 comments:

  1. I was quite surprised to hear Desmond Swayne on Radio Solent's Steve Harris show speaking strongly in favour of same sex marriage.
    Not the kind of guy I would describe as 'Liberal' really and he certainly claims to be a bible reading Christian.
    He went further than that saying he now regretted voting for section 28 and against lifting ban on gays in our armed forces.
    He said he was happily married and refused to believe that allowing same sex marriages would in any way dilute his marriage.
    'I was wrong, I've changed my mind'he said.
    Well hats off to him for that I say.
    With DC speaking out in Favour of same sex marriage and Ukip coming out in opposition will we see you joining my old North End class mate Peter Stewart and his band of ukippers Michael?

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  2. What I omitted to say above is that UKIP actually SUPPORT same sex marriage due to their large Lesbian and Gay section, so I would urge UKIP members to join with conservatives who are against this to do all we can to prevent this from becoming law.

    I wasn't surprised when I heard Desmond Swayne on the Steve Harris show as I had heard him some months ago on the Tim Daykin programme saying exactly the same thing. I wondered then and still wonder how a rereading of the Bible could convince him that there is nothing wrong with same sex marriage in the eyes of God. The apostle Paul is very clear about it in Romans 1:24-32. So what's he up to? Desmon Swayne, I mean.

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  3. A UKIP friend of mine challenged my assertion above that they actually support same sex marriage, so I checked by phoning their HQ. They definitely DON'T!!! This is what they say on their website:
    PM 'PICKING FIGHT' OVER SAME-SEX MARRIAGE

    Wednesday, 7th March 2012

    The Prime Minister is deliberately provoking a conflict with people of faith, and risking turning their beliefs into criminal 'hate offences', by pursuing the legal enforcement of same-sex marriage, according to UKIP.

    The party's National Executive confirmed that while UKIP fully supports the concept of civil partnerships, it opposes the move to legislate for same-sex marriage.

    NEC member and the party's appointed spokesman on the subject, David Coburn, said: "We are a libertarian party which doesn't believe in the government interfering in how people live their lives. We support civil partnerships, enabling gay men and women to register their long-term commitment to each other. I have fought for this all my life.

    "But David Cameron seems to be saying that marriage is something else. If so, it is clearly in the domain of the church and other faiths – and it is none of government's business to meddle with it.

    "It seems that, through some kind of political correctness, David Cameron is picking a fight with the millions of people whose religious faiths do not recognise same-sex marriages. That, in our view, is an aggressive attack on people of faith, and an act of intolerance in itself.

    "In addition, if the government does legislate in this way, we believe that any criticism of same-sex marriage which may be expressed by someone on the basis of their faith could be classified as a 'hate crime'. That would be a grotesque assault on people's freedom of conscience."

    So I was wrong and this is a call for Conservatives to prevent the government from pursuing this legislation just to satisfy under one percent of the population.

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