Vote Leave against Vote Remain

A friend said she voted Remain for these reasons. My response is under Vote Leave below:

Vote Remain because:
1) The EU is not undemocratic-90% of decisions are made by member states /elected MEP not unelected bureaucrats.
How democratic are we by the way - 37% of the population voted in the current government. The House of Lords is unelected.  We have our own unelected bureaucarts making decisions - Ever watched Yes Minister??PM.
Vote Leave

Between 50% and 60% of all laws are made in Brussels and our MEPs have little influence as the laws are decided by unelected bureaucrats.

The argument is made that our House of Lords is also unelected, but bills can be returned to the House of Commons if they are defeated by the Lords.

Yes, only 37% of the population voted in the current government but the first past the post system was confirmed democratically in a referendum conducted by the coalition government.

2) Turkey is not about to join - it does not and has never and is even less likely with its less secular gov to join.

Vote Leave

Turkey will be a member by 2025

David Cameron's policy has always been to admit Turkey as a member as soon as possible, although much of the country lies outside the continent of Europe and they don't share our culture or beliefs.  It is only now that he is running scared that he is saying that they won't join until the year 3000! The next seven states to join the EU will be Albania, Bosnia, Kosovo, Macedonia, Montenegro and Turkey. Turkey has been fast-tracked and will get visa-free access to the EU from this year. Citizens of all these states will have the right to settle in the UK.

3) The tabloid press - Express Mail Sun owned by Murdoch has his own agenda for leaving- he said -paraphase I want to leave because I can control Westminster but not Brussels I find that very alarming though entirely unsurprising.
Vote Leave

The tabloid press will NEVER control Westminster. Murdoch just makes these statements to sell papers. 

4) The days of the great British Empire are gone.  We are not a super power. We are a tiny island with a tiny population in comparison To US Russia China India. The single market really does give us the best deal. The alternative is to keep in it but have no control over any rules or be a very small fish in a big sea the world is not the same place it was 40 years ago. 

Vote Leave

We are the world's fifth largest economy.  In fact we were the fourth until Blair and Brown dropped us one place.  We  have some of the highest growth and lowest unemployment rates in the developed world, not to mention the EU. We also receive the most foreign investment in Europe.  Leaving the EU will improve our quality of life.  With its right to make deals restored, the UK will be able to gain better access to those markets that buy most of our goods and services.

Our language, English, is the international language and we are a member of the Commonwealth, with which we shall be able to deal fully once more.

5) Does anyone really believe all the money is going to go into the NHS? - the cost of re-negotiating all our trade agreements and totally restructuring our legal system will probably suck up much of that.

Vote Leave

There is no answer either way to this question, but there is no doubt that money will be saved. That £350m plastered over the Vote Leave bus is somewhat misleading as it is just what we pay the EU each week.  Yes, we get a large amount of it back, but the point really is that we shall be able to make our own decisions on how to spend it without the shackles of the EU.

6) There is a very long list of politicans worldwide and economic experts who think we should stay viz Farage and Johnson and Gove  each with their own political agenda........
Vote Leave
Actually, the support of world politicians has obviously been orchestrated by Downing Street.  It is evident that Barak Obama was actually reading a note from Downing Street when he said we'd go to the back of the queue, instead of using the American 'line'.  This also true of all the support from big business leaders who, it has emerged, have been offered deals and honours for supporting the government, and from military chiefs.

Regarding facts

Both sides have been guilty of hype.  I have mentioned Vote Leave's £350m; and there is the dreadful immigration poster put out by Nigel Farage and disowned by Boris Johnson and Michael Gove.  However,  the Remain campaign was rightly named Project Fear. Just three of the claims are: 1) Brexit would mean the end of Western civilisation 2)It would lead to World War 3. 3)Britain will be devastated.

Oh and for me as a Christian I am voting Remain because I personally believe it is what Jesus would do - his creed of love one another does not sit well with me in terms of xenphobia and distrust of anything not British - he wouldn't have liked the corruption and undemocracy but I think he would have stayed and tried to change.

Vote Leave

This just doesn't hold water at all. Brexit does NOT mean turning our backs on the world. In fact, it means embracing the whole world after having deserted the Commonwealth forty years ago.  Indian doctors working here have been refused renewal of their visas because they're not European, and they are having to go home to the detriment of the NHS. Brexit means we can ex;pand our cooperation with other nations and oversees aid will continue, although many of us believe that there are many needy people at home who need it more than corrupt governments abroad, but that's for another day.